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Coachwoodmyrtle
10-08-09, 09:20 PM
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/nrl/story/0,26746,25901544-5003409,00.html



A WAR of words between the Broncos and a player agent over an alleged third-party agreement involving prop Dave Taylor could lead to a salary cap investigation.

The Sunday Mail has learned Col Davis, the manager of Brisbane prop Dave Taylor, is seeking $40,000 from the club on behalf of his client as part of a TPA allegedly discussed with Broncos chief executive Bruno Cullen during contract negotiations.

Davis claims the Broncos have until October 31 – the day Taylor's one-year contract with Brisbane expires – to pay the outstanding amount.

Davis said the dispute was a contributing factor in Taylor's decision to quit the club and join Souths next season.

But Cullen has hit back, insisting no such agreement exists.

He confirmed raising the possibility of a third-party sponsorship with Davis, but said it was the responsibility of Taylor's agent to personally broker any deal with the prospective sponsor.

Under the code's salary cap laws, a club can be found guilty of a cap breach if it fails to declare a third-party agreement to the NRL.

The NRL is aware of the dispute and to date is happy with the information it has received.

However, if Davis is able to show there was a firm agreement, it's understood their stance may change. NRL salary cap auditor Ian Schubert has the power to widen his current investigation into the Broncos, launched last month, to incorporate the TPA dispute.

NRL spokesman John Brady confirmed that the governing body's probe of Brisbane's affairs remains open after allegations mining magnate Ken Talbot had handed out cash to several Broncos players while he was a member of the Thoroughbreds, a group of wealthy businessmen who provided support and advice to players.

The allegations were made last month by former Broncos chairman Don Nissen while he was giving testimony at the corruption trial of former Beattie government minister Gordon Nuttall in Brisbane's District Court.

Davis is adamant the Broncos still owe Taylor $40,000 after an initial $10,000 payment for a traineeship and has taken steps to recoup the money he believes he is owed.

He confirmed visiting Broncos football manager Peter Nolan over the matter last Thursday morning. He said he left the meeting at the club's offices at Red Hill "confident the issue will be sorted out in due course".

"At the time of doing (Taylor's) contract I met with Bruno and he advised they would assist with getting a third-party agreement," Davis claimed.

"At this stage, Dave hasn't received his money, but I've met with Peter Nolan.

"There was a TPA that was agreed to – and I'm not going to back down from that."

Contacted Friday, Cullen said he was not aware of Davis's meeting with Nolan to discuss the alleged TPA.

Cullen scoffed at claims by Davis that, having met Nolan, he had been given an assurance the dispute would be resolved.

Nolan said: "I never wanted to be dragged into this because it was an issue between Bruno and Col Davis.

"But I categorically deny it (promising to resolve the issue). I did not say that to Col Davis."

Cullen revealed that a third party declared his interest in paying $50,000 a year for five years as part of a sponsorship arrangement with Taylor.

Cullen says he left the negotiation process to Davis and the prospective sponsor, but maintains no TPA was brokered.

He also slammed suggestions the alleged agreement could represent an undisclosed, under-the-table payment aimed at circumventing the NRL salary cap.

"Ask Col Davis for a copy of the TPA. That would be a good way to prove if one is in place," Cullen said.

In response, Davis said: "I was told (by Cullen) we could strike a third-party deal. The issue arose when I started to ask questions about what we needed to do to get the money due under the third-party agreement."

Cullen said at no stage did he guarantee Davis a TPA for Taylor.

"I advised Dave Taylor's manager during negotiations that there was a third-party interested in securing his services for the Broncos at $50,000 a year for five years. That had to be procured between Dave's manager and the third party," Cullen said.

Asked if he disclosed the proposed TPA to the NRL, Cullen said: "No, it never went ahead.

"There was no need for me to inform the NRL before we had an agreement between Dave and the third party.

Cullen said he believed Davis had let his client down: "I don't take any responsibility for this at all."

NRL spokesman Brady said: "We are keeping an open mind around the allegations surrounding the Broncos and it is still being investigated.

"There is an ongoing interest around some of the issues related to the Thoroughbreds and we review all clubs on a regular basis.

"We'll continue to look at all matters."

MARSVOLTA
11-08-09, 07:54 AM
This item flies directly in the face of what forum recruitment expert BJ'er posted a few weeks ago about Taylor having second thoughts about coming to the Rabbitohs. I wonder where BlowJobber got that piece of news from, must have been the fabled corner store he regularly attends. Might be time to look for a new source deathrider.

The Perp
11-08-09, 08:50 AM
All this pent-up anger and hatred can't be good for you, Marsvolta. You'll blow a gasket.

Marsvolta = :wall1: :wall2: ::mad: :bigun2: :sniper2: :hammer::trinity::boxing::nunchaku::palmer:

Colin
11-08-09, 11:47 AM
Perp,

Its a fair comment by Marsvolta. BJ came on and reported as fact that Taylor wanted out - doesnt look like that at all now does it?

Its a fair comment when we hunt out bullshit comments by LNPE, so this has to be fair too if we want balance in the best Souths forum of all.

Mars,

Perp also has a point - be careful to make sure your factual with all of your rants directed at BJ mate, you'll cop a hiding here if your found to be defending the undefendable ;-)

The Perp
11-08-09, 01:11 PM
With all the bullshit that comes out of the football and leagues clubs, Marsvolta worries only about what Brian says?

I'd like to hear Marsvolta give a grading of the performances of Richardson and Pappas.

MARSVOLTA
11-08-09, 03:05 PM
With all the bullshit that comes out of the football and leagues clubs, Marsvolta worries only about what Brian says?

I'd like to hear Marsvolta give a grading of the performances of Richardson and Pappas.


Look back through my posts and you will find plenty about the poor performance of Richo, Pappas I could nae give a stuff about. That's your obsession not mine.

Brianj
11-08-09, 03:56 PM
Perp,

Its a fair comment by Marsvolta. BJ came on and reported as fact that Taylor wanted out - doesnt look like that at all now does it?

Its a fair comment when we hunt out bullshit comments by LNPE, so this has to be fair too if we want balance in the best Souths forum of all.

Mars,

Perp also has a point - be careful to make sure your factual with all of your rants directed at BJ mate, you'll cop a hiding here if your found to be defending the undefendable ;-)

Colin I never reported it as "fact" I reported a rumour. The rumour actually maybe true , maybe he did try to get out of the Souths deal?

Geddes and Ross have both been signed now as well as Taylor, hmmmm don't be surprised to see another forward leave. With Asotasi,Stuart and Crossman we are a bit heavy in Props.

The Perp
11-08-09, 04:11 PM
Look back through my posts and you will find plenty about the poor performance of Richo, Pappas I could nae give a stuff about. That's your obsession not mine.

You do know that it's Richardson and Pappas running the club? You should give a stuff about them.

They are joyriding the club into the ground and some are happy clapping them.

Colin
11-08-09, 04:48 PM
Colin I never reported it as "fact" I reported a rumour. The rumour actually maybe true , maybe he did try to get out of the Souths deal?

Geddes and Ross have both been signed now as well as Taylor, hmmmm don't be surprised to see another forward leave. With Asotasi,Stuart and Crossman we are a bit heavy in Props.

Brian,

I'm a little surprised at our prop-fest in the market, but we will be "losing" Cleal and Greenfield, although you wouldnt feel it considering neither have done anything except sit around in track suits and have a laugh on camera at inappropriate times in some first grade thrashings.

You'd also think Crossman and J Lowe arent going to be around after their rather worthless to SSFC but worthwhile to themselves contracts are finished.

Scott Geddes deserves his contract. 2011 should be testimonials for both Geddes and Stuart and they should be treated equally with the respect they deserve for their services.

Any more news from the cornershop? I heard a rumour from someone we were after Lagi Setu. Is that crap?

Hustler
12-08-09, 08:54 AM
Can anyone confirm a contract list for next year.....

Cleal and Crossman, from memory, signed 2 year deals that started this year. Could be totally wrong, but it would be handy if we could have a look at a confirmed list of contracted players for next year.

The Perp
12-08-09, 10:44 AM
Cleal is joining the ministry and Crossman will be managing Souths Cares. Anyone seen Peachey lately?

Brianj
12-08-09, 11:42 AM
Can anyone confirm a contract list for next year.....

Cleal and Crossman, from memory, signed 2 year deals that started this year. Could be totally wrong, but it would be handy if we could have a look at a confirmed list of contracted players for next year.

Crossman signed a 2 year deal;


Rabbitohs sign Garret Crossman for 2009 and 2010
04 Oct 2008

The South Sydney Rabbitohs have announced the signing of front-row forward Garret Crossman for the 2009 and 2010 seasons today.

So did Cleal, he signed for 2 years;


The South Sydney Rabbitohs have announced the signing of front-row forward Kane Cleal for the 2009 and 2010 seasons today.

Cleal has managed 42 NRL games in 7 seasons, averaging 6 NRL games a season, he was a good signing

mckinks
12-08-09, 12:12 PM
Cleal is joining the ministry and Crossman will be managing Souths Cares. Anyone seen Peachey lately?

No, but I know where he is! He's in Broken Hill with Nate Myles, Braith Anasta and Mario Fenech!

The Perp
12-08-09, 05:06 PM
If Mario is there, they must be getting paid for the trip.