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Wolfy
26-04-08, 11:39 AM
A tribal tragedy

By Rebecca Wilson
Daily Telegraph
April 26, 2008

ONE of the great sporting tragedies has gradually unfolded before our eyes in recent years.

It is one of those things that happened before we realised how terrible it was and now there is no way it can be fixed without a great deal of pain.

The whole hideous scenario came to a head at ANZ Stadium (the former Olympic/Telstra stadium) in Sydney yesterday. A match that for many years has been held at the Sydney Football Stadium in the inner city (with great success) was moved to the cavernous former Olympic Stadium.

To put this into perspective, let's have a look at what has unfolded over recent seasons. A large number of AFL and NRL clubs have moved from their traditional ovals and parks to massive arenas that seat up to 100,000 people.

Melbourne led the way and, thanks to what is a great footy venue, has largely succeeded in transplanting half a dozen AFL clubs from their home grounds to Telstra Dome.

The fact that AFL attracts crowds of more than 40,000 to matches makes the home ground sacrifice for clubs a lot more palatable. But what is happening in the NRL is nothing short of disgraceful and tragic.

St George Illawarra and South Sydney have entered into a venture with the former Olympic Stadium that will see them play most of their home games at a venue that is around 50km from where most of their fans live.

Yesterday's match featured two teams from the south and east of the city playing in the heart of Sydney's west before a crowd of people who feel like foreigners sitting there.

They have done this because ANZ Stadium offers huge financial incentives to embattled clubs struggling to break even. Rugby league insiders question how on earth the stadium management finds the money to pay so many teams so much.

While the clubs claim their bottom line looks a little more healthy in the short term, the result is that teams are now playing before very low crowds in a stadium that really needs to seat 60,000 before it feels like you are at the footy.

Leading NRL commentator Matty Johns says ANZ stadium "stinks''. Players and commentators hate the place.

St George, Wests Tigers, South Sydney and the Canterbury Bulldogs have all given up home ground advantages because club bosses lacked the vision to fix their home grounds rather than make the move. They saw the money, they ran and they forgot about what really matters in football - tribalism.

These blokes have taken the quick fix and ignored the damage they have caused their clubs, the fans and the game. If they had spent more time promoting the game in their local districts, they would never have become so desperate for cash in the first place.

The AFL can quite gleefully look for a second team in the Sydney market because they see so many rugby league clubs struggling to attract crowds.

ANZ is tailor-made for Aussie rules. While league teams are like fish out of water there, the Aussie rules boys will be lapping it up in front of huge crowds.

If the clubs who have made the ridiculous move to the city's worst football stadium had thought it through, the solution was at their own front door.

Restoring home grounds in suburban Sydney satisfies a footy fan's need to feel like part of a football community.

Home grounds that seat around 20,000 give all teams a home ground advantage that players reckon is worth up to 10 points a game.

It is no coincidence that the teams that have sold themselves to ANZ are wallowing at the bottom of the NRL ladder. They no longer actually have games on familiar turf in front of a big home crowd.

Nothing good can come of clubs who up stumps from established league communities for the sake of a lousy dollar. The AFL model has worked because Telstra Dome is easy to access, spectators are close to the action on the field and AFL crowds are always big.

A small bunch of league lovers will travel with their binoculars a long way to watch their footy team in a bad stadium.

A large majority won't.

League fans traditionally want to enjoy their fortnightly footy game at the end of their street. The beauty of the rundown home ground and its closeness to the action has been unbelievably under-rated.

These football bosses will learn the hard way that a financial quick fix will end up stuffing their clubs and sending thousands of fans away in the process.

By the time the AFL juggernaut lands another team in Sydney, their demise will be complete and the Sydney football market will be dominated by those who live south of the border.

2017
26-04-08, 02:17 PM
How good would it be if we had a proper stadium in Redfern or anywhere else for that matter within our real territory e.g. Heffron Park.

But thanks to a 10 year deal with ANZ stadium that will never happen any time soon.

:mad::mad:

The Perp
26-04-08, 02:37 PM
:pimp:

I recall a story a year or so ago where PHaC was boasting that he was going to buy land around Redfern Station and build a home ground there.

Hustler
28-04-08, 09:43 AM
:pimp:

I recall a story a year or so ago where PHaC was boasting that he was going to buy land around Redfern Station and build a home ground there.

Yeah, that was one of his best.

Rusty was talking with LaPalia from Sydney FC to share the ground wasn't he....

I haven't been, but just seeing and feeling the atmosphere that comes from the Titans new home ground is amazing. It shows what a near capacity home ground in your heartland can do for results on the park. The titans are flying, undefeated at home, and are sitting atop the ladder.

Themis
28-04-08, 09:50 AM
Skilled is an awesome facility :happy0065:

oinkoink
28-04-08, 10:11 AM
That's not bad for Wilson. I reckon she's spot on.

The Rort
28-04-08, 10:26 AM
That's not bad for Wilson. I reckon she's spot on.


Interesting though that a super league mole like Wilson who works for News writes such an article. It is News who set the agenda to get teams playing out of state of the art stadiums. Look at poor old Norths...Were told North Sydney Oval did not meet "their" criteria and forced them up to the coast, well we all know what happened then! News Limited are Hypocrites! :sniper:

The Perp
28-04-08, 12:55 PM
Yeah, that was one of his best.

Rusty was talking with LaPalia from Sydney FC to share the ground wasn't he....

I haven't been, but just seeing and feeling the atmosphere that comes from the Titans new home ground is amazing. It shows what a near capacity home ground in your heartland can do for results on the park. The titans are flying, undefeated at home, and are sitting atop the ladder.

Hustler, thanks, you refreshed my memory. They were talking about building a stadium near the Eveleigh Street rail area.

Re the Titans, what a difference a very good halfback makes to a team. Prince is flying. I wish we had him.

Hustler
28-04-08, 01:37 PM
Hustler, thanks, you refreshed my memory. They were talking about building a stadium near the Eveleigh Street rail area.

Re the Titans, what a difference a very good halfback makes to a team. Prince is flying. I wish we had him.

Yeah that's the one. HaC was spruiking the great benefits of having a purpose built stadium in our own back yard. What a piss ant! 6 months later and we are stuck in a 20% filled stadium for 10 years, out of our area and with no fan consultation! I think Heffron was thrown up by one of "the saviours" at one stage too.

Do you know if we have got our "own dressing room" out at ANZ?? Much was made of that back when the deal was signed but nothing has been said since.... More bullshit from the king of bullshitting I am guessing!!

And on Scott Prince... Holy shit! Can't he play! They way he guides his team around, attack's the line, always looks dangerous is just bloody amazing! And he can kick goals too! Great signing by the Titans!

Neville Bartos
28-04-08, 03:21 PM
Yeah that's the one. HaC was spruiking the great benefits of having a purpose built stadium in our own back yard. What a piss ant! 6 months later and we are stuck in a 20% filled stadium for 10 years, out of our area and with no fan consultation! I think Heffron was thrown up by one of "the saviours" at one stage too.

Do you know if we have got our "own dressing room" out at ANZ?? Much was made of that back when the deal was signed but nothing has been said since.... More bullshit from the king of bullshitting I am guessing!!

And on Scott Prince... Holy shit! Can't he play! They way he guides his team around, attack's the line, always looks dangerous is just bloody amazing! And he can kick goals too! Great signing by the Titans!


Dont worry its "only" 10 years playing at Homebush (dont forget Perth)
The dressing room is due in 2009 (I wont hold my breath)
Hefron was knocked on the head before it got off the ground by council.
PHaC doesnt consult the fans about anything.

The club is back to where it started from and I dont like at one bit.

Scott Prince is probably the best player in the comp on current form.

Hustler
28-04-08, 03:27 PM
Dont worry its "only" 10 years playing at Homebush (dont forget Perth)
The dressing room is due in 2009 (I wont hold my breath)
Hefron was knocked on the head before it got off the ground by council.
PHaC doesnt consult the fans about anything.

The club is back to where it started from and I dont like at one bit.

Scott Prince is probably the best player in the comp on current form.

Dressing room in 2009 hey.... Just like the Leagues club that was due to open in March 2008, yet the plans are still yet to go through council!

Gee i'm glad they threw in membership to the LC with my $100 FC membership! HaC couldn't lie straight in bed!