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Themis
29-04-08, 08:04 AM
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23613837-5001023,00.html


By Ray Chesterton

April 29, 2008 12:00am

SOUTHS' instability and ill- discipline under its new masters has now been clearly exposed.

The players will not do what they are told on the field. Or off the field.

The liability of a tyro CEO like Peter Holmes a Court, his L-plate swinging around his neck, is now obvious.

He lacks the experience and knowledge to successfully run a football club and impose enforceable restraints.

Discipline has not been breached at Souths. It has been tramped violently underfoot in a humiliating affront by players to management and supporters.

In return Souths management blundered alarmingly in a haphazard retaliation.

Five players went out after the loss to the Broncos, vowing to have an alcohol-free night under the authority of co-captain David Kidwell.

All five failed a zero alcohol test next day. Four were dropped. Kidwell was not. His minor penalty was losing the co-captaincy, a senseless duality of leadership best abandoned anyway.

Why wasn't Kidwell suspended? Why the discrimination? Won't one rule for some and another for the rest inflame the troops?


Like so much of what happens at Souths, who knows?

This is a Souths caught up in a cycle it has never known of flamboyance, extravagance, gushing promises, theatrics and play-acting all leading to tragedy - as can do.

Experienced bosses would never test the alcohol content of players irrespective of promises about being teetotal.

They would think losing seven games and a $70,000 fine for salary cap breaches enough of a problem without risking the loss of players.

Souths have always endured hardship but there were always hard men in control. Not any more.

Daniel78
29-04-08, 08:28 AM
Chesterton is a bitter weasil and I regret wasting my time reading this, after I put my own personal ban in place some time ago never to give him the time of day. I might ban myself from the Cowboys game...

Hustler
29-04-08, 08:35 AM
I agree with him on the Kidwell issue.

If reports are correct, Kidwell addressed the players after the game on the very issue of a drinking ban. For him, as captain and "supposed leader" of this club to then go out and fail a breath test the next morning is extremely bad form. He should have been stood down like the other 4, no if's no buts! And if the management were too afraid to do it, he should have been man enough to do it himself, set an example to the youngsters and practice what he preached.

Double standards of the highest order!

The Perp
29-04-08, 08:44 AM
Hustler, I agree with you, but.....

That rule about not having a beer shouldn't be there. If the players want to socialise with a few beers after a game, and they're not causing trouble, why stop them? It's a good way to wind down after a hard game. It gets the players talking about issues among themselves.

It's draconian to stop that happening. We can't control every part of their lives. Imagine if my boss told me I couldn't have a beer after work. I'd tell him where to go. We've all got lives outside of football and work.

:guinness:

Hustler
29-04-08, 08:48 AM
Hustler, I agree with you, but.....

That rule about not having a beer shouldn't be there. If the players want to socialise with a few beers after a game, and they're not causing trouble, why stop them? It's a good way to wind down after a hard game. It gets the players talking about issues among themselves.

It's draconian to stop that happening. We can't control every part of their lives. Imagine if my boss told me I couldn't have a beer after work. I'd tell him where to go. We've all got lives outside of football and work.

:guinness:

Totally agree, they definately need a release, like we all do after a hard week at work or whatever.... But, from all reports, these rules were put into place by the senior playing group, and if that is correct, they have no one to blame but themselves...

Thegrass
29-04-08, 09:13 AM
the rule is ass about!
It should be anyone who came in with a blood alcohol level under .08 should be banned. what they are in desperate need of is a good old fashioned drink together.
get pissed, tell a few stories and gel.
whats all this crap about a regeneration day ffs?
as chopper read would say, "harden the f#*k up"




Totally agree, they definately need a release, like we all do after a hard week at work or whatever.... But, from all reports, these rules were put into place by the senior playing group, and if that is correct, they have no one to blame but themselves...

Brianj
29-04-08, 05:54 PM
Look lets be honest, the 4 should have been dropped and Kidwell should have lost the capatincy role anyway, kidwell should also be benched on his current form, Paulson and Champion should have been dropped as well they were all fucking ordinary to say the least against Wests and Broncos.

I would have given Gorden and Sam another chance they have the potential to do better than Champion or Paulson.

The Perp
29-04-08, 06:54 PM
Chesterton's right when he wrote that it was stupid to bring in this rule. Sooner or later someone was going to get caught and it'd hurt the club.

Anyway, I wonder whether the senior players really wanted this rule in as claimed. I recall a non-existent poll of fans about going to ANZ Stadium which was said by PHaC to favour the move. Of course, there never was a poll.

Harley
29-04-08, 08:20 PM
Chesterton hates Souths end of story. The Club could be on top financially & competition wise & he would dig crap over something.

Wolfy
29-04-08, 08:34 PM
Chesterton might be many things, many of which I despise. But in this instance he is correct.

ssssonicyouth
29-04-08, 10:21 PM
i'm sure potential signings will be looking at this and thinking 'gee souths seems like a club with a fun atmosphere'

The Perp
30-04-08, 10:22 AM
SSS - potential signing who like a quiet beer would be looking at the club and saying, "Bugger that, I won't sign with them."

The rule is stupid.

Hustler
30-04-08, 11:44 AM
SSS - potential signing who like a quiet beer would be looking at the club and saying, "Bugger that, I won't sign with them."

The rule is stupid.

That's if there is any potential signings to begin with.... :hmmmm:

ssssonicyouth
30-04-08, 03:30 PM
hustler- that's a 'chicken and the egg' scenario isn't it??

Hustler
30-04-08, 03:37 PM
hustler- that's a 'chicken and the egg' scenario isn't it??

Is HaC the chicken or the egg?? :hmmmm: